User login |
"Turn and face the strange changes" or "Back in the USSA" ?Or both? It seems the American voters have spoken loudly and clearly (if not coherently) in choosing the socialist candidate for president over the semi-liberal one. This is a momentous occasion, not because the winner happens to be black (or more correctly put, half black) or because he is a socialist who suspiciously seems unfamiliar with the definition of the word even while espousing it's policies. No, there have been several closet socialist presidents. FDR, Woodrow Wilson, and LBJ come to mind.
The difference now is that the majority of US Americans have wholeheartedly endorsed a socialist agenda that has been openly stated in public, without any attempts at disguising it, and with no excuses implied or otherwise. I guess I'm getting old, but this is a shock to the system. The country wasn't founded on socialism, or dare I say, communism, and to have a majority in what was once a great country embrace it with eyes wide open is nauseating, to say the least. Caveat emptor, to again say the least.
What a long, strange trip it's been. From a fragile beginning and against formidable odds, the United States of America (basically the inventor of freedom and capitalism) has risen from a mere promise of what the human experiment could be into the greatest nation in history and then strangely, inexorably and “progressively” shunned the very roots of it's greatness in favor of a failed (repeatedly) world view of how things should be. It's sad, and I'm not ashamed to say that it hurts. Very much so. Those who openly espouse the demise of what this country stands for have always said that we will do it to ourselves, and they're right. “Why?” is the only question remaining , and I don't have an answer at the moment.
Admittedly, I'm somewhat depressed after the outcome of the election, but didn't feel the need or have any desire to attend any “pity parties”. At these events people normally discuss what went wrong and offer strategies as to how to reverse current trends and setbacks. Depression aside, I honestly feel that we have reached the tipping point and that it is no longer possible to return our country to it's former path. Twilight's Last Gleaming. The beginning, the end. Game over, folks.
tim
|
empathy
Tim,
I see, feel, and hear everything you are saying with deep regret. I, as someone who has started a business and am now very afraid of the consequences of the supposed majority vote in this country still believe there is still yet hope. I am not sure where we are heading but I can only hope that the socialist and Marxist ideas of our new leader will again fail as they have in the past (repeatedly) and they will have no one to blame but themselves. I think that everything runs in cycles and this is in my opinion a downturn in our society. Hopefully, with the help of those of us that still believe in the fundamental roots of what got us to the point of being the greatest nation on earth we can again return to the beliefs and morals that delivered us once from oppression and big government. It is amazing to me how we have dissolved into a “poor me” nation instead of grabbing our damn boot straps and ducking our heads to fight the good fight. Wars are not won only on other shores but also on our own soil, at home where we must keep our heads and do what is right in spite of what feels good at the time.
But that is just my 2 cents and I am only one proud American who still holds hope for this great nation. Even though it may prove to be futile hope!! I will go down fighting though!!
Best Regards,
Scott
FUNDAMENTAL ROOTS-
...and what do you consider this to mean Scott?
Socialism as a social disease.
I agree that trends are cyclical, but every cycle seems to end up further to the left. Capitalism, successful businesses, entrepreneurship, self reliance and pride in one's own accomplishments are now being openly and constantly criticized by both the media and a majority of politicians. They have been supplanted by blamelessness, class envy, an expectation of entitlement, and eager government bailouts of both inept companies and those that meet the latest criteria for being classified as poor.
While we've been conditioned to bail out the poor over a period of decades, multibillion dollar "fixes" for every company that comes running with hands held out is still new enough to be disconcerting. Alarmingly though, the government seems willing enough to shovel massive amounts of taxpayer money to anyone shameless enough to grovel for it. More and more Americans are scrambling to get in line.
I also agree that the most crucial war is being fought here, but am inclined to believe the wrong side is winning. As to whether we're rapidly approaching a point where the house of cards will come tumbling down in the near future remains to be seen. I will say that I believe socialism is an unsustainable philosophy that will inevitably collapse upon itself by destroying the very foundation that infused it with capital to begin with. My hope is that this will occur before irreparable damage is done, but I have my doubts.
As to your two cents, I for one, value it far more than any amount of redistributed money for the simple fact that you earned it.
tim
KNOWLEDGE BASE
...gentlemen, very concise and well articulated comments. Where do you derive this knowledge from? What experience supports your viewpoints?
Not so sure that is an
Not so sure that is an accurate depiction of the "State of the Union". Yes, America's popular vote and its electoral vote brought President Elect Obama to office. Question is what happens now? He appears to be bringing in veteran's of previous administrations (perceived successful or not aside), which in truth is a viable solution to the issues our Union is currently struggling through. These Veterans of government work know the government machine as well as their failures in previous administrations. In theory, they would have learned what works, worked and that which did not. They are being allowed a second chance to make a difference. Quite remarkable if you consider it.
Again, I ask......what happens now?...oh all seeing eye.... :)
Share your thoughts.
Name withheld to protect the guilty
You're kidding, right?
In theory, a bumblebee can't fly. In fact, the same old show after promising change won't fly for very long.
Nope, not kidding.
Nice comment. Well thought out. Anonymously of course.
defining socialism
So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.
- George Lucas
I may be suffering some hearing loss at my advanced age but hear the applause loud and clear. Can you?
My thoughts have been shared.
tim
Blah...Blah....
defining socialism
How do I disagree with thee? Let me count the ways.
//What was the final count?
Last things first. I don't profess to know or have all the correct answers (just most of them) but certainly don't claim to be all seeing. I'll leave that to the Masons, or Shriners, or whomever cares to stake the claim.
//Mason's. ...I was just having some fun of my own.
Now then, on to the subject at hand. An incosequential, but vaild point is that it was the electoral college, not the popular vote that decided the election. That's just picking nits though and requires no elaboration.
//Then why bother with the paragraph? Valid point was the point.
The question is indeed "What happens now?" and was the basis of my original post. I try to deal in facts rather than wild speculation, and going exclusively by the words that came out of Obama's mouth, I labeled him an outright socialist. If I'm mistaken, that only means he was being untruthful when verbally describing his "vision" for America.
//Please define your understanding of what "Socialism" means. I do not want to jump before I ask.
Obama ran on "Hope and Change" lest we forget, yet as you say, is populating his cabinet positions with the same well entrenched, old fashioned partisan hacks that I feel have contributed mightily to the current state of affairs in this nation. You called them "veterans" more than once, I call them cronies. At least we are getting a clearer picture of what "Hope and Change" really means to the president elect.
//Not what I said. Consider re-reading my post.
Saying these "veterans" know the government machine is indeed true, in that they know how to manipulate it to their own benefit and have done so in the past. They also are probably well aware of their failures, but I'm sure you're also aware that failure is inconsequential in the liberal doctrine. All that matters is intentions. The more (and more stifling of individual rights) the better.
//Whom and what specific issues are you referring. Please be specific. Maybe, at least a name and a year and what the representative did? Trends during their tenure? Something documented?
Being allowed a second chance is remarkable? A poor word choice in my opinion. I prefer incredulous, unbelievable, inconceivable, unthinkable, laughable, absurd, illogical, ludicrous, preposterous, and yet in the end, sadly typical and totally predictable. If only Hitler had been allowed a second chance. I'm sure he would have learned from his mistakes.
//Your blog is about opinions, not factual information thus far-so its Ok to share it. Thanks. I now know we differ. Keep in mind that until you have served in that capacity, you really don't know.
What happens now? Action and reaction are almost instantaneous on a small scale. Given the obscene, ever growing bloated size of the government, it will take years or even decades before the full consequences of this election are manifested, but the repercussions will be substantial and probably irreversible. Such is the case when the majority choose taking instead of earning.
//Very interested in this one. Please elaborate. I am thinking that you are saying we are living the decisions now made from an Administration in office from 10 years ago-yet, Bush is blamed. Please clarify your point.
definitions
- socialist economy
1992-1999
Executive Branch Scandals
Legislative Branch Scandals -
SERVING IN A "CAPACITY"
I dont usually qualify my own service, but will do so in this case for your readers since they likely do not KNOW ME.
I have served over 20 years in the DOD service, 17 Years as a Civil Servant. I have a Masters Degree and various certifications. During my service I have been to over 50+ service schools, which have included Infantry, Drill Sergeant, Operations SGT, Transportation Officer Course, Signal Officer Course as well as various training to allow me to make decisions that had long lasting procedural and policy impacts on over 600 soldiers, their families etc....
Please qualify your "Capacity" for your readers.
Dont get me wrong, I am a huge advocate of free speech, especially when it is substantiated.
I enjoy the commentary on your blog, as well as sharing of different philosophies, however...just because some one disagrees with you doesnt mean they are "wrong".
Its not Mr Lucas, but I felt it appropriate.
Quote:
The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing, and becomes nothing.
-- Janet Rand
Limited capacity?
ELABORATION W/APPROPRIATE REFERENCES
Lots of anger in you big guy. Picking on those that offer a differing opinion (supported) isnt what I expected. However, I offer you the following about our President Elect, with cite resources available via simple search engine manipulation.
Which of these efforts fits the "socialism" definition you offered above. I am having a difficult time finding it? Thanks.
/////////SEE BELOW////////////
Bill Sponsorship
Bills in 2007-2008 (the 110th Congress) sponsored by Obama:
Status Bill
Enacted
Oct 14, 2008 S. 906: Mercury Export Ban Act of 2008
Passed Senate
Sep 22, 2008 S.Con.Res. 96: A concurrent resolution commemorating Irena Sendler, a woman whose bravery saved the lives of thousands during the Holocaust and remembering her legacy of courage, selflessness, and hope.
Passed Senate
Jun 26, 2007 S.Con.Res. 25: A concurrent resolution condemning the recent violent actions of the Government of Zimbabwe against peaceful opposition party activists and members of civil society.
Passed Senate
Jun 24, 2008 S.Res. 600: A resolution commemorating the 44th anniversary of the deaths of civil rights workers Andrew Goodman, James Chaney, and Michael Schwerner in Philadelphia, Mississippi, while working in the name of American democracy to register voters and secure civil rights during the summer of 1964, which has become known as "Freedom Summer".
Passed Senate
Jul 13, 2007 S.Res. 268: A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as "National Summer Learning Day".
Passed Senate
Mar 28, 2007 S.Res. 133: A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
Reported by Committee
Feb 13, 2008 S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007
Reported by Committee
Sep 6, 2007 S. 453: Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007
Introduced
Sep 17, 2008 S. 3506: A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase the credit for purchase of vehicles fueled by natural gas or liquefied natural gas and to amend the Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users to reauthorize the Clean School Bus Program of the Environmental Protection Agency.
Introduced
Jul 29, 2008 S. 3358: Improving Food-borne Illness Surveillance and Response Act of 2008
Introduced
Jun 17, 2008 S. 3142: Preventing Stillbirth and SUID Act of 2008
Introduced
Jun 3, 2008 S. 3077: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008
Introduced
May 21, 2008 S. 3047: Enhancing Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics Education Act of 2008
Introduced
Dec 19, 2007 S. 2519: Contracting and Tax Accountability Act of 2007
Introduced
Dec 6, 2007 S. 2428: National STEM Scholarship Database Act
Introduced
Nov 16, 2007 S. 2392: National STEM Scholarship Database Act
Introduced
Nov 13, 2007 S. 2347: Prevention Through Affordable Access Act
Introduced
Nov 8, 2007 S. 2330: Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act
Introduced
Oct 24, 2007 S. 2227: Success in the Middle Act of 2007
Introduced
Oct 24, 2007 S. 2224: Nuclear Release Notice Act of 2007
Introduced
Oct 18, 2007 S. 2202: Renewable Fuel Standard Extension Act of 2007
Introduced
Oct 4, 2007 S. 2147: Security Contractor Accountability Act of 2007
Introduced
Oct 3, 2007 S. 2132: A bill to prohibit the introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce of children's products that contain lead, and for other purposes.
Introduced
Sep 27, 2007 S. 2111: Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act
Introduced
Sep 18, 2007 S. 2066: Back to School: Improving Standards for Nutrition and Physical Education in Schools Act of 2007
Introduced
Sep 12, 2007 S. 2044: Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007
Introduced
Sep 6, 2007 S. 2030: A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists.
Introduced
Aug 3, 2007 S. 1989: Pigford Claims Remedy Act of 2007
Introduced
Aug 2, 2007 S. 1977: Nuclear Weapons Threat Reduction Act of 2007
Introduced
Jul 26, 2007 S. 1885: Military Family Job Protection Act
Introduced
Jul 25, 2007 S. 1873: Improving Emergency Medical Care and Response Act of 2007
Introduced
Jul 19, 2007 S. 1824: Hospital Quality Report Card Act of 2007
Introduced
Jul 19, 2007 S. 1818: Missing Mercury in Manufacturing Monitoring and Mitigation Act
Introduced
Jul 19, 2007 S. 1817: A bill to ensure proper administration of the discharge of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder, and for other purposes.
Introduced
Jul 18, 2007 S. 1811: Lead Poisoning Reduction Act of 2007
Introduced
Jul 16, 2007 S. 1790: Communities of Color Teen Pregnancy Prevention Act of 2007
Introduced
Jun 27, 2007 S. 1713: A bill to provide for the issuance of a commemorative postage stamp in honor of Rosa Parks.
Introduced
Jun 7, 2007 S. 1574: Teaching Residency Act
Introduced
May 24, 2007 S. 1513: Predominantly Black Institution Act of 2007
Introduced
May 17, 2007 S. 1430: Iran Sanctions Enabling Act
Introduced
May 14, 2007 S. 1389: Climate Change Education Act
Introduced
May 7, 2007 S. 1324: National Low-Carbon Fuel Standard Act of 2007
Introduced
May 3, 2007 S. 1306: Lead Free Toys Act of 2007
Introduced
May 2, 2007 S. 1271: Homecoming Enhancement Research and Oversight (HERO) Act
Introduced
Apr 25, 2007 S. 1222: STOP FRAUD Act
Introduced
Apr 20, 2007 S. 1181: Shareholder Vote on Executive Compensation Act
Introduced
Apr 18, 2007 S. 1151: Health Care for Hybrids Act
Introduced
Apr 10, 2007 S. 1084: Homes for Heroes Act of 2007
Introduced
Mar 29, 2007 S. 1068: Healthy Communities Act of 2007
Introduced
Mar 29, 2007 S. 1067: Healthy Places Act of 2007
Introduced
Mar 23, 2007 S. 976: Genomics and Personalized Medicine Act of 2007
Introduced
Mar 8, 2007 S. 823: Microbicide Development Act
Introduced
Mar 7, 2007 S. 795: Citizenship Promotion Act of 2007
Introduced
Mar 6, 2007 S. 768: Fuel Economy Reform Act
Introduced
Mar 6, 2007 S. 767: Fuel Economy Reform Act
Introduced
Mar 1, 2007 S. 737: Voter Advocate and Democracy Index Act of 2007
Introduced
Feb 28, 2007 S. 713: Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act of 2007
Introduced
Feb 27, 2007 S. 692: VA Hospital Quality Report Card Act of 2007
Introduced
Feb 16, 2007 S. 674: Transparency and Accountability in Military and Security Contracting Act of 2007
Introduced
Jan 30, 2007 S. 433: Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007
Introduced
Jan 4, 2007 S. 133: American Fuels Act of 2007
Introduced
Jan 4, 2007 S. 117: Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act of 2007
Introduced
Jan 4, 2007 S. 116: STEP UP Act of 2007
Introduced
Jan 4, 2007 S. 115: Oil SENSE Act
Introduced
Jan 4, 2007 S. 114: Innovation Districts for School Improvement Act
Introduced
Sep 17, 2007 S.Con.Res. 46: A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month.
Introduced
Sep 12, 2007 S.Con.Res. 44: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring Rosa Louise McCauley Parks.
Introduced
Jan 31, 2007 S.Con.Res. 5: A concurrent resolution honoring the life of Percy Lavon Julian, a pioneer in the field of organic chemistry and the first and only African-American chemist to be inducted into the National Academy of Sciences.
Introduced
Nov 1, 2007 S.J.Res. 23: A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
Introduced
Jul 25, 2008 S.Res. 628: A resolution expressing support for the designation of Disability Pride Day and recognizing that all people, including people living with disabilities, have the right, responsibility, and ability to be active, contributing members of society and fully engaged as citizens of the United States.
Introduced
Nov 15, 2007 S.Res. 383: A resolution honoring and recognizing the achievements of Carl Stokes, the first African-American mayor of a major American city, in the 40th year since his election as Mayor of Cleveland, Ohio.
your serve
Careful there, you're offering an opinion unsubstantiated by facts. That's a no-no on the part of others; do the same rules apply to you? Speaking of facts, your initial post started by stating Obama was bringing in former Clinton cabinet members (to cover his inexperience, in my opinion) but then deteriorated into nothing more than opinion based on your rather remarkable trust in government's ability and desire to do the right thing. Shame, shame.
Nice ploy to imply that I'm picking on you in an attempt to put me on the defensive. Nice, but unsuccessful. I will admit to an overindulgence in sarcasm, but have restrained myself for the most part during our conversations thus far. As to meeting your expectations, I'll endeavor (whether in futility or not) to do so.
These bills either meet or have the potential to meet my definition.
S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007
S. 1389: Climate Change Education Act
S. 1324: National Low-Carbon Fuel Standard Act of 2007
S. 767: Fuel Economy Reform Act
S. 768: Fuel Economy Reform Act
As to the rest of Obama's proposed bills; a few have merit, most are superfluous, and I detect a trend of putting the interests of African-Americans above those of the general populace. I am forced to admit that the fate of the nation depends on Rosa Parks getting a commemorative stamp though.
To me, the question isn't what Obama has done thus far, which is admittedly precious little, rather what he intends to do in the future. I find it amazing that he could win an election while for the most part avoiding specifics. Such is the case when the masses are caught up in a movement. Such is also the case when you can outspend your opponent five or six to one without releasing the names of apparent multitudes of 200 dollar or less contributors.
Is Obama a socialist? That's the (multi) trillion dollar question. Considering his associations with ACORN, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac, I would certainly believe the potential is there. As you're a fact fan, here are a few. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd (two McCain supporters, no doubt) along with numerous other Democrat politicians have successfully fought off numerous Republican attempts at regulation and reform at FM/FM.
Rather than ending up in prison for inflated earnings reports that allowed massive bonuses for themselves, FMers Franklin Raines and James Johnson ended up as financial advisors to Obama. Rather curious, wouldn't you say? The only conclusion I can come up with is that either Obama isn't very bright or careful in choosing advisors, or that he intentionally rewarded these scoundrels for campaign contributions.
Let's see. Frank and Dodd stonewalled attempts to regulate the entities that played a major role in the sub-prime mortgage collapse, which in turn led to chaos in the overall economy. FM/FM channeled money to ACORN and Obama, and Obama rewards ineptitude with positions on his team and possibly with future appointments. Hmmm....
What we need now is a charismatic leader who can ride in on his government purchased horse in order to save the economy and promise the taxpayers that things will get better (now that said taxpayers have absorbed the hit for irresponsible government and banking decisions). Any thoughts as to who our savior might be? All the while, Obamament tightens its grip on all decision making on all levels. That's probably as it should be; mere citizens can't be expected to make any crucial decisions on their own. After all, they don't have the education that our leaders in politics and banking have, and thus may make critical mistakes. No, best to leave such things to the experts.
You're welcome.
Tim
Well said, Tim. If somewhat
Well said, Tim. If somewhat depressing. The country has lost it's way when both business and individuals are groveling for government handouts.
ITS NOT FREE-
Gents, it's not free. You should present opinions as facts only when it is well supported by others.
Just the facts, ma'am.